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bigblue27
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February 14, 2015 11:48 am  

You read about DB's being "tied to the front";
or conversely, as with TCU's defense, the secondary is "independent" from the front.
What does this actually mean, and what are the advantages/disadvantages of each concept?


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CoachCraig
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February 14, 2015 4:21 pm  

pm Jrtitan.  You wont find a better or more knowledgeable explanation anywhere.

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February 14, 2015 4:30 pm  

I wonder if the reason TCU gives up 50 a game is that their secondary is not dictated by front.  😛


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February 15, 2015 12:45 pm  

"I wonder if the reason TCU gives up 50 a game is that their secondary is not dictated by front."

Yeah, but it sure took a long time to figure it out.


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February 15, 2015 1:52 pm  

I dont think it is  true that the secondary  is not "related" to the front in tcus defense.  what I think it true is they can play their many different "coverages" (which if you study the defense i think you will find the "coverages" are just adjustments off of their base look--they have different calls that allow them to make adjustments) from certain base/basic fronts. 

example: when they play 2 read they have calls to adjust to different things the offense may do.  to trips they have a number of calls they can make....these may not change the front the front may stay the same......I have s tudied their defense a decent amount, but I am by no means an expert....but I wouldnt agree abut using the word "independent."


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February 15, 2015 2:52 pm  

I think its in relation to coverage where as a "quarters" or "hard 2" corner has force or his alignment dictates he be close to the box or los.

In the 10 and most youth 46 I see the corners being tied to the front

I can explain it to you, I can't understand if for you.


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February 15, 2015 3:21 pm  

corner never has force in quarters......safety or olb has force.......


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February 15, 2015 5:28 pm  

corner never has force in quarters......safety or olb has force.......

We talking quarters not cover 4

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February 15, 2015 5:42 pm  

corner doesnt have force in anything but cover 2/squat technique.....CMON ZACH!! LET'S GET IT RIGHT!!!


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CoachCraig
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February 15, 2015 5:55 pm  

Whats cloud coverage then?

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February 15, 2015 5:59 pm  

We talking quarters not cover 4

Arent they the same?

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February 16, 2015 4:35 am  

corner doesnt have force in anything but cover 2/squat technique.....CMON ZACH!! LET'S GET IT RIGHT!!!

Start listening at the 60 sec mark smart ass

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February 16, 2015 4:37 am  

Arent they the same?

Yes and no... haha I know bad answer

Quarters via miami is other wise known as cover 2 match these days

Match concepts are the defenses way to adjust coverage based in pre snap and during play actions.

Saban does rip/liz match...similiar concepts wtih single high

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February 16, 2015 10:11 am  

Yes and no... haha I know bad answer

Quarters via miami is other wise known as cover 2 match these days

Match concepts are the defenses way to adjust coverage based in pre snap and during play actions.

Saban does rip/liz match...similiar concepts wtih single high

So cover 4 with press corners......  Michigan state specialty.

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February 17, 2015 1:00 pm  

So cover 4 with press corners......  Michigan state specialty.

Quarters is formation specific
vs 1 wr theyre man
Vs 2 wr theyre in a match zone
vs te theyre in hard 2 mostly

Its flexible but involves a lot of teaching

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