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Cloverdale78
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I started teaching and drilling hawk/gator tackling last year as an "option" for the kids. We also drilled heads up tackling, and for angle tackles we taught getting your head in front, head up.  This year I would like to teach only hawk tackle, but I am not sure how to teach the angle tackle. An angle tackle with the head behind the runner seems like it will create a lot of missed tackles.  Any ideas?? Thanks


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I see that you are coaching kids that are 10 and under.  For whatever it's worth, at that age, I feel it's far more important to get kids comfortable with making contact and mastering angles than the intricacies of making a tackle.  Our biggest emphasis aside from bringing violence to the ball carrier is "keep your HEAD UP and to the side".  When the kids are in a live scrimmage, they aren't going to spend much time thinking about or actually tackling how you taught them, the game is simply too fast.  For kids who are fearful of contact, missing a tackle is positive reinforcement of their fear: "I didn't tackle the ball carrier and I didn't get hurt so that's good."

Imagine you are driving down the street in your car and a dump truck swerves into your lane...what do you do?  First of all you are going to do your best to avoid the collision, assuming you're not able to swerve to avoid the truck, what position are you going to put your body into?  Are you going to lift your head up and stare face-first into the grill of the dump truck?  No, you're going to duck your head, exposing the crown of the head and you're probably going to curl up into a fetal position and try to get small.

Now think about this from the perspective of a 9 or 10 year old kid.  You want him to make a collision with another kid, what does his body naturally want to do?  Factor in the potential fear of the unknown that this player may have.

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I have found that I focus more on where I want them to hit the runner and with what part of their body.  Since the head is attached is goes in the right spot if they keep their eyes up.

For example, with the angle tackle that you are talking about, I want my tackler to track the near thighs of the runner and hit it with his outside shoulder with a wrap.  If he does that, his head will be behind the runner.  If he hits with the wrong shoulder, then the head is in front.  I have found that they are more aggressive if I am focusing on what part to hit with instead of where to avoid putting your head. 

As far as missed tackles go, if I can make them more aggressive and less fearful, that has a far more significant impact on made tackles than whether I might get an occasional arm tackle due to poor form.  I think those arm tackles will happen even more often without hawk tackling.  We went to it 3 years ago and it really helped our team tackling, particularly with our smaller players. 


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Huskerprice
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Have you watched all the Pete Carol Hawk Tackling drills on YouTube?


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Have you watched all the Pete Carol Hawk Tackling drills on YouTube?

Brilliant! Learn hawk tackling from a video on hawk tackling haha

I can explain it to you, I can't understand if for you.


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I have found that I focus more on where I want them to hit the runner and with what part of their body.  Since the head is attached is goes in the right spot if they keep their eyes up.

For example, with the angle tackle that you are talking about, I want my tackler to track the near thighs of the runner and hit it with his outside shoulder with a wrap.  If he does that, his head will be behind the runner.  If he hits with the wrong shoulder, then the head is in front.  I have found that they are more aggressive if I am focusing on what part to hit with instead of where to avoid putting your head. 

As far as missed tackles go, if I can make them more aggressive and less fearful, that has a far more significant impact on made tackles than whether I might get an occasional arm tackle due to poor form.  I think those arm tackles will happen even more often without hawk tackling.  We went to it 3 years ago and it really helped our team tackling, particularly with our smaller players.

To help emphasize the statement above about hitting with the shoulder, I start off teaching tackling by asking the kids what a helmet is for (to protect the head), and what are the thigh pads, etc... for (for protection).  Then I ask what shoulder pads are for and they say "to protect the shoulders", to which I reply "WRONG!  The shoulder pads are weapons.  We strike with shoulder pads when we make tackles. 

Track the near hip; aim your near shoulder to their unprotected gut;  Cheek to cheek (tacklers cheek on ball carriers butt cheek); explode into them with your shoulder pads while simultaneously shooting the hands to the back of the legs; eyes go to where you are driving and 'drive for 5' (smaller guys gator roll).  Some additional coaching points...

if they false step, I focus on eliminating that FIRST.
sink the hips, don't arch the back.
eyes ahead to see where you are driving.
cheek to cheek is a good way for them to envision where their head goes.

Hope this helps.


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I thought the USA tackling instruction was actually really good this year. For those of you that have taken the test you saw that it was actually a Seahawk coach teaching it. I don't know how much more you would need.


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Brilliant! Learn hawk tackling from a video on hawk tackling haha

You've pointed out the problem. Now can you offer a solution?

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Brilliant! Learn hawk tackling from a video on hawk tackling haha

Really douche? It's a step by step video, what better way to learn than watch, or they can try and figure out what the Hell some youth coach is try to say in a thread on the Internet. Mountjoy was right about this forum, same guys on this board act like they know everything and jump down people's throat vs than try and help them. Do you ever wonder why it's the same people posting on here. It's the same fucktards arguing with one another.
 
I'm out have fun dip shit Zach and others.


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Really douche? It's a step by step video, what better way to learn than watch, or they can try and figure out what the Hell some youth coach is try to say in a thread on the Internet. Mountjoy was right about this forum, same guys on this board act like they know everything and jump down people's throat vs than try and help them. Do you ever wonder why it's the same people posting on here. It's the same fucktards arguing with one another.
 
I'm out have fun dip shit Zach and others.

I think that you get at least 2 good answers for every snarky comment.  Cut us some slack - we are football coaches and not Internet communications specialists. 


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Now back to our regularly scheduled topic...

I agree with SeaBass...the USA Football material was actually really good, we are going to be working a lot of it into our stuff.

None of them suck, they just haven't found what the kid is good at yet.


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Really douche? It's a step by step video, what better way to learn than watch, or they can try and figure out what the Hell some youth coach is try to say in a thread on the Internet. Mountjoy was right about this forum, same guys on this board act like they know everything and jump down people's throat vs than try and help them. Do you ever wonder why it's the same people posting on here. It's the same fucktards arguing with one another.
 
I'm out have fun dip shit Zach and others.

Are you really sure how he meant that?  Because I'm not sure at all. Might have been meant in a douchey way, might not. In fact, I'd say Zach's "Brilliant" post made no sense whatsoever if it was some kind of put-down.  So before you get your panties in a wad and start chucking out insults, how about a "what did you mean by that?".  Which also, by the way, helps to make him look/feel about 1" tall if he was being a dink. Nothing like a reasoned and calm call-out of a post to make somebody feel stupid for being snarky.


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Ill bite...my post was me being a dick...why would you teach something if you dont have all the material?  Theres youtube...theres the clinics online,  the material...all types of resources to answer questions. You see a trend or cool video somewhere and wanna do it...but dont go through the material

The question being proposed is answered in the early part of the material on "hawk tackling"

No you cant "roll" well in an angled engagement no shit, youll slip off before you make the tackle...

No apologies given...get the material...youll find your answer

I can explain it to you, I can't understand if for you.


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You've pointed out the problem. Now can you offer a solution?

Buy the damn material

I can explain it to you, I can't understand if for you.


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ZACH
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Wait you dont even need to buy it just use your google machine plenty there

https://www.sadlersports.com/seattle-seahawks-tackling-resources/

I can explain it to you, I can't understand if for you.


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