So I stumbled onto a concept that I never realized about the no huddle offense. Teams like Oregon are trying to stretch the field left and right and horizontally with the intention of wearing the other teams down. They spread out who gets the ball and they play fast, but when you run a screen pass, half of your team doesn't have to run to the other side of the field, but their team does. From at least safety to middle line backer they have to chase down the player. And many defensive ends and corners will try and get in on plays at the youth level by running across the field. I would think that this concept is even more potent at this age as the starters go both ways. I'm considering trying an offense that is specifically geared towards achieving exhaustion while keeping my kids fresh. I especially like it because I always feel like we're out sized by the biggest kids on the block.
The plays that most strikingly have that characteristic, other than the ones mentioned off swing passes, are quick pitches out of the backfield, especially off rocket motion.
From a wing T formation, you can run jet and quick pitch away from the wing side, and rocket toward the wing side. They may call some of these end runs "sweeps", but they really aren't.
Cisar did this with ubsw. I did this with pro style, dcwt, spread, and pistol.
The pace you set is crippling to allow of teams who are not conditioned, especially when you're driving.
We had personnel packages and subbed almost every play, and our play calls were short. Our goal was to be lined up and In cadence around 10-12 secs after ball is spotted. If we wanted to go faster, we would call "mayday" keep the personel on the field and run a " core 4 play". Now we wanted to be on the ball I'm cadence within 5 secs of ball spot.
We also had to practice fast to get ready to be able to do this. That's the most difficult part, but once your guys are running at a good pace the game just plays different.
Rant over lol sorry
I can explain it to you, I can't understand if for you.
The school I'm at now had been a really successful up-tempo team prior to my arrival. The OC decided we are going back to that style. We had our O staff meeting last week to discuss how we're going to implement it. The main topic was the adjustments to how we will have to practice this year. The changes to our practice are fairly drastic. There were a lot of things I hadn't considered. I think it will be fun but there is going to be an adjustment period for sure.
I'm accustomed to being able to coach/fix things between plays during team time...that won't be a thing going forward...at least not during team.
The school I'm at now had been a really successful up-tempo team prior to my arrival. The OC decided we are going back to that style. We had our O staff meeting last week to discuss how we're going to implement it. The main topic was the adjustments to how we will have to practice this year. The changes to our practice are fairly drastic. There were a lot of things I hadn't considered. I think it will be fun but there is going to be an adjustment period for sure.
I'm accustomed to being able to coach/fix things between plays during team time...that won't be a thing going forward...at least not during team.
We were a no huddle DTDW team and I’d like to believe that there wasn’t anyone faster or better conditioned than we were.
I will say that to some extent this doesn’t matter all too much because you’re waiting on the ref to spot the ball and to whistle the play. Most referees at the youth level are pretty slow going and control the clock more than the coaches ever could.
My desire to run no huddle wasn’t any attempt to wear the other team down or leave them unprepared or anything. I don’t believe that plays much into strategy at the youth level. I mean honestly speaking, most youth coaches over complicate everything thinking about stuff like this and it’s really a waste of time and effort in the big picture. You’re going to get way more bang for your buck focusing your effort and attention on hitting, executing your plays and really…forcing turnovers. DP has the stats on this.
Benefits of no huddle at the youth level? Your team will be well conditioned for any situation and you will likely get more offensive time on the clock…but there is this weird thing that happens when you reach a certain point of execution, aggression and such…you’ll score fast so it’s not like you’re going to wear the defense out. You’ll give the ball back to them upon scoring (or will you?)
Your light speed offense will end up creating more defensive time on the field. Then your defense will have to get really good at stopping the other team, creating turnovers and opportunities for the offense to get back on the field.
If you show up for a fair fight, you are unprepared.
Maybe I'm in the minority here. If we have the ball, you can't score.
In up-tempo, if you don't get the 1st down, you turn the ball over pretty quickly w/out much time taken off the clock. Unless we're behind, we generally break the huddle with 17 seconds on the play clock and snap it with 2-3 seconds left. We want to hog the ball and play 'keep away'.
With just 10 minute quarters we only play 40 minutes of football, game is over pretty quick as it is...
If you want the ball, either stop us, or hope we score quickly.
Umm.... why does that 6 ft tall 9 yr old have a goatee...?
I was all about more plays. One team goal that we never quite managed to meet was hitting the slaughter rule in the first quarter. Hitting that margin in the second quarter before halftime happened frequently.
If you show up for a fair fight, you are unprepared.
I will say that to some extent this doesn’t matter all too much because you’re waiting on the ref to spot the ball and to whistle the play. Most referees at the youth level are pretty slow going and control the clock more than the coaches ever could.
--^ This.
My desire to run no huddle wasn’t any attempt to wear the other team down or leave them unprepared or anything. I don’t believe that plays much into strategy at the youth level.
--You're right, it doesn't. Quarters are too fast & most younger kids have the physical ability to play both ways...I always felt that even if we played 15-minute quarters, the kids didn't wear down. Emotionally, they were vulnerable. But not physically.
I mean honestly speaking, most youth coaches over complicate everything thinking about stuff like this and it’s really a waste of time and effort in the big picture. You’re going to get way more bang for your buck focusing your effort and attention on hitting, executing your plays and really…forcing turnovers. DP has the stats on this.
--It really is as simple as that. Just being +3 in turnovers won us all but one game in all of my years as a youth and high school head coach. Not kicking my own butt by doing stupid stuff made us a winner far before I ever really knew how to coach. And teaching physicality will give you an intimidation advantage even if if doesn't give you a physical one.
Benefits of no huddle at the youth level? Your team will be well conditioned for any situation and you will likely get more offensive time on the clock…but there is this weird thing that happens when you reach a certain point of execution, aggression and such…you’ll score fast so it’s not like you’re going to wear the defense out. You’ll give the ball back to them upon scoring (or will you?)
--Exactly. Really, how fast do you want to score? Who is it that I am I wearing out? In youth ball, I was just putting my players who'd scored back out on the field to play defense. One of the best things I learned in coaching (especially at the youth level) was how to manipulate the clock to advantage.
Your light speed offense will end up creating more defensive time on the field.
--^ This.
--Dave
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Last season was my very first running the sideline and calling the offense with a clock. I made it a point of focus to have a plan to manage clock.
We had 2 close wins and 1 blow out win (and 2 wins by forfeit). Both of the close wins featured end of game drives that robbed the opponent of the 4th quarter. One of those close wins featured an end of 1st half drive that fell short by 3 yards.
In the blowout win, we had hurry up drives to end the halves. Both went over 50 yards in under 90 seconds and scored. Not trying to show the other team up. Just working on my hurry up package.
Point is, learn to use the clock as an advantage.
Game plan? I got your game plan. We gonna run the bawl some. We gonna throw the bawl some. We gonna play some defense. We gonna run some special teams, but we better not run kick return but one time and we sure as heck better not punt.
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