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Coach Kyle
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It's a lonesome pole cat variation with jet motion. The stack is ready to catch a screen. The QB is under center. He counts. #1 If there is only one person over center, he auto QB sneaks. #2 If there is only one over the left stack, he auto throws screen left. If he counts more than four between the left side, he #3 auto throws to the right stack. #4 If the 2 over center are hard blitzing, the QB taps 2 times, and we throw to the center who releases. #5 If he only counts 4, then he signals jet sweep left or right, depending on which looks best.

 

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Posted by: @coach-kyle

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It's a lonesome pole cat variation with jet motion. The stack is ready to catch a screen. The QB is under center. He counts. #1 If there is only one person over center, he auto QB sneaks. #2 If there is only one over the left stack, he auto throws screen left. If he counts more than four between the left side, he #3 auto throws to the right stack. #4 If the 2 over center are hard blitzing, the QB taps 2 times, and we throw to the center who releases. #5 If he only counts 4, then he signals jet sweep left or right, depending on which looks best.

 

The Q is under Center? 

Impossible. He cant beat the blitz. 

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Under Center your QB would take the worst beating ever seen on a football field. 

 

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If I understand polecate well enough after running the base package from the book. We would align in something like this. 

If you're under center your QB will not play long I assure you. So hope you have a few good backups. If you plan to keep this under center I'll use auto blitz the corner once jet man in motion and near safety takes him, n+m will slant in direction of motion , man opposite motion stones the center.  B and S will now cross key QB n jet back for read/keep.  My goal vs you will be to get your QB and force you to throw.

 

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Polecat works and is the most fun I've had coaching in ages. I suggest getting the book.

 

 

 

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@mahonz That's a funny clip. Pat McAfee explained that play. The ball was only supposed to be snapped if the Patriots had too many men on the field. The left gunner is the one who snapped it. He was a game day replacement for the original gunner who was sick the night before. 

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Right, I'm thinking it can work with jet, and most people don't play man vs jet. So now I'm forcing them to play a special thing. 

If they really go after the qb, then stoning works, but it's a trick play. You'd see it 2 times just to mess with their heads.. unless it was free I guess.

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@mahonz

 

That qb doesn't look like he knew it was coming 

 

Edit: It being the snap

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@bucksweep58

Right, I'm thinking it can work with jet, and most people don't play man vs jet. So now I'm forcing them to play a special thing. 

If they really go after the qb, then stoning works, but it's a trick play. You'd see it 2 times just to mess with their heads.. unless it was free I guess.

A lot of work for a series used 2x a game. 

You should perhaps look into A-11 formation and something a little more "creative" see attached.  

I don't know how long you've coached, however my experience has taught me that time spent installing a trick play is a wasted time that could be spent making players better for the remaining plays on Saturday afternoon.

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@mahonz

 

That qb doesn't look like he knew it was coming 

 

Edit: It being the snap

The playbook said to snap it if he felt anything up under him. He was a special teams utility guy and had literally never had his hand on the ball as a snapper until this play. An assistant told the "QB" on the sideline to try to get the patriots to jump on a hard count, but didn't tell the brand new snapper. Snapper was just doing what the playbook said to do.

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@mahonz

 

That qb doesn't look like he knew it was coming 

 

Edit: It being the snap

Irrelevant. The results would be the same regardless. 

Go shotgun and have some real fun:) 

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Posted by: @gumby_in_co

@mahonz That's a funny clip. Pat McAfee explained that play. The ball was only supposed to be snapped if the Patriots had too many men on the field. The left gunner is the one who snapped it. He was a game day replacement for the original gunner who was sick the night before. 

Dumbest play in NFL history. 

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Coach Kyle
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@mahonz

 

That qb doesn't look like he knew it was coming 

 

Edit: It being the snap

Irrelevant. The results would be the same regardless. 

Go shotgun and have some real fun:) 

Okay. Valid concern. The person I was modeling after didn't have someone do that.

Try this instead. It's all under center. @zach

 

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This one is even simpler. QB looks for sneak #1 (if 3, sneak). If 1 over left stack, throw. Otherwise throw to right stack. Additionally you can run Jet if it looks open.

 

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Posted by: @bucksweep58

my experience has taught me that time spent installing a trick play is a wasted time that could be spent making players better for the remaining plays on Saturday afternoon.

I'll agree with that.  Our occasional "trick" plays have been plays that were built primarily into established plays that we already ran.  The passing component of our Hook & Ladder was a pass route that we already used.  I consider a play like "Counter" to be a trick play, however we run it so much that it actually becomes a core play.  You have to consider how "expensive" the play is, that you're going to install. (Time vs. payoff.)

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https://coachtube.com/course_lesson/the-p-i-t-a-package/the-basic-p-i-t-a-package/14895939

Hey Coach Kyle,

 

This seemed like it was kind of what you were looking for. Not sure what the advanced system is, but I watched the free clip and it gave me a Mahonz vibe, which is my way of saying I’m not sure if I’d have the stones to try it out, but maybe you have more gunslinger in your than me  🤠 


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We ran the swinging gate at the H.S. Varsity level one season, for PAT / 2 pt conversions.   A variation similar to ours:

https://blogs.usafootball.com/blog/616/trick-or-treat-using-the-swinging-gate-on-2-point-conversions

We lined up in it after every TD, and had a couple calls, one of which - when the Def was aligned well for it - was to bring the formation back to regular PAT formation and kick.  Don;t know if the rules still allow, but you can call the hash you want, we always went laft hash.  Our kick seemed to prefer it to head-on as I recall.  But our kicker was pretty weird, tho I did coach one who was even weirder.  

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Umm.... why does that 6 ft tall 9 yr old have a goatee...?


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