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Greetings Coaches,

We're considering the merits of flipping the offense this season.   For those of you who do / have...

How did you huddle so as to break smoothly and approach the LOS without kids bumping into each other?  

Thanx

Umm.... why does that 6 ft tall 9 yr old have a goatee...?


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I coached the DW for 1 season without flipping and 2 seasons with. For the most part, we didn't huddle, but when we did, it was like this:

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AB  SE ST SG  C

BB                 Q

CB QE QT QG

 

Dotted line represents the LOS, so our huddle was "sideways". I'll defer to Kent (CO_Coach_KC) as he was the header/OC and this was his brain child. Strong side would go first, followed by quick side. Backs would let the quick side go before taking their spot.

I will add that most of the time, we flipped and flopped at the LOS and it was chaos in a good way. It really seemed to confuse the defense while we always knew where we wanted to end up. Especially defenses who tried to key on our backs. So, I don't think of the kids bumping into each other as a bad thing. We did a TON of reps on air, so we were very good at lining up and snapping the ball quickly.

When in doot . . . glass and oot.


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We use a sugar huddle. At the recommendation of Dave, we call the play and send the C and Gs. We call the play a second time and the rest of the offense heads to the line. 

With having the two lines in the huddle and letting the G get set first I would wager it will it almost eliminates any issues you may have with crashing into each other 

        LOS

         QB

T   G   C   G   T

TE AB BB CB TE

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As Gumby mentioned, our first year flipping, we huddled as show in his post.  The second season, we went with the attached.  This was done to eliminate a lot of the bumping into one another experienced the first season.  There were still some issues.  But as Gumby mentioned, we were okay with that.  

There are many who will say flipping is a tell.  At the younger ages, that is what we wanted.  The kids on the opposing team didn't know we flipped.  The coaches did.  As a result, the coaches spent a lot of time yelling at their players.  That was to our advantage since we had a quick snap count.  Motion was on a heal lift and like many Wing-T teams, the QB watched the motion back and called for the ball based on positioning of the motion back by play.  At the snap, we might have half the opposition looking to their sideline.  It was almost comical when we would go to our "roller" call which meant get to the LOS ASAP and run the same play, mainly because the opposing coaches were yelling even more at their players.  This would usually result in timeouts by the opposition.

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Way to make the rest of us look bad. I don’t have a playbook, and you’ve got Van Gogh creating your huddle slides. 
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There are many who will say flipping is a tell. 

Wouldn't be much help if you're good at counters and misdirection...   Thing about counters, even if they know you run 'em, they still don't know when you're going to run 'em.  Mostly, tho, we're not trying to fool a 40 yr old coach with 15 yrs of experience coaching, we're fooling 8 & 9 yr olds.    😀 

Umm.... why does that 6 ft tall 9 yr old have a goatee...?


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Greetings Coaches,

We're considering the merits of flipping the offense this season.   For those of you who do / have...

How did you huddle so as to break smoothly and approach the LOS without kids bumping into each other?  

Thanx

I always thought it would be fun to cartwheel out of the huddle. Create mass confusion. 

 

What is beautiful, lives forever.


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Mostly, tho, we're not trying to fool a 40 yr old coach with 15 yrs of experience coaching, we're fooling 8 & 9 yr olds. 

Most of the time you’re fooling both. But I absolutely agree, I’ve watched coaches at the 7-8 age losing their minds because they know exactly where the play is going, but the entire team are just kittens chasing yarn. 

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Posted by: @mahonz
Posted by: @coyote

Greetings Coaches,

We're considering the merits of flipping the offense this season.   For those of you who do / have...

How did you huddle so as to break smoothly and approach the LOS without kids bumping into each other?  

Thanx

I always thought it would be fun to cartwheel out of the huddle. Create mass confusion. 

 

Missed opportunity. When I coached with Kent, we had a kid who was a competitive gymnast who could easily do 30 yards worth of back handsprings. We should have put him in motion like that and ran wedge.

When in doot . . . glass and oot.


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Posted by: @mahonz
Posted by: @coyote

Greetings Coaches,

We're considering the merits of flipping the offense this season.   For those of you who do / have...

How did you huddle so as to break smoothly and approach the LOS without kids bumping into each other?  

Thanx

I always thought it would be fun to cartwheel out of the huddle. Create mass confusion. 

 

Missed opportunity. When I coached with Kent, we had a kid who was a competitive gymnast who could easily do 30 yards worth of back handsprings. We should have put him in motion like that and ran wedge.

If we tried this....Brad would flag us !

What is beautiful, lives forever.


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Posted by: @mahonz

 

If we tried this....Brad would flag us !

Or assault the kid. 

When in doot . . . glass and oot.


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wasnt he moving towards the line .. FLAG 


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