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DumCoach
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September 15, 2019 6:47 pm  

The coverage varies but the box is pretty consistent:

            V                V
            V  V V    V V  V
            O O O 0 O O O
                      O
                      O
                O      O

Age is 7-8.  Anyone got a favorite play against this type of look?

"Football is for the kids - But let's win anyway."


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ZACH
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September 15, 2019 7:04 pm  

The coverage varies but the box is pretty consistent:

            V                V
            V  V V    V V  V
            O O O 0 O O O
                      O
                      O
                O      O

Age is 7-8.  Anyone got a favorite play against this type of look?

G power ( playside guard kicks 1 lead block from backfield, one back influences sweep) ? Maybe double dive since youre in the bone?

I can explain it to you, I can't understand if for you.


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DumCoach
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September 15, 2019 9:46 pm  

If any body uses this kind of "D", what happens if I widen my TE's?

              V                V
            V  V V    V V  V
        O    O O 0 O O    O
                      O
                      O
                O      O

What is the defensive adjustment?  I'm guessing this:

          V                        V
            V  V V    V V  V
        O    O O 0 O O    O
                      O
                      O
                O      O

And maybe even this:

          V                      V
          V    V V    V V        V
          O  O O 0 O O  O
                      O
                      O
                O      O

I'm wondering if I can move two defenders by moving one TE?

"Football is for the kids - But let's win anyway."


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Wing-n-It
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September 16, 2019 3:39 am  

The coverage varies but the box is pretty consistent:

            V                V
            V  V V    V V  V
            O O O 0 O O O
                      O
                      O
                O      O

Age is 7-8.  Anyone got a favorite play against this type of look?

You did say "no cross block"? Correct
Was that your league rules or someone elses?

2 Things my offense will always have is a Wing and a Wedge


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ZACH
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September 16, 2019 3:46 am  

If any body uses this kind of "D", what happens if I widen my TE's?

              V                V
            V  V V    V V  V
        O    O O 0 O O    O
                      O
                      O
                O      O

What is the defensive adjustment?  I'm guessing this:

          V                        V
            V  V V    V V  V
        O    O O 0 O O    O
                      O
                      O
                O      O

And maybe even this:

          V                      V
          V    V V    V V        V
          O  O O 0 O O  O
                      O
                      O
                O      O

I'm wondering if I can move two defenders by moving one TE?

Option 3 is my best guess

I can explain it to you, I can't understand if for you.


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DumCoach
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September 16, 2019 5:36 am  

You did say "no cross block"? Correct
Was that your league rules or someone elses?

My HC organization doesn't allow it.  League does.

"Football is for the kids - But let's win anyway."


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Bob Goodman
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September 16, 2019 5:37 am  

The coverage varies but the box is pretty consistent:

            V                V
            V  V V    V V  V
            O O O 0 O O O
                      O
                      O
                O      O

Age is 7-8.  Anyone got a favorite play against this type of look?

I've hardly coached that age at all, but...pop pass to a shallow crosser.  Cut at least the DGs, FB picks up the DE on the side the E's releasing from.

However, most popular with that age is sweep-and-bootleg or toss sweep and lead.


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terrypjohnson
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September 16, 2019 5:50 am  

I ran a similar version of the defense that you listed. The only difference is that the LB was inside and the DT was outside.

The play that *killed* me was faking power the the right and counter back to the left (the LB's were so aggressive, that they overpursued). I gave up 22 points in that contest, which is why I reached out to you about the Killer Bee 😉

I also like the QB Sweep with the ends split out. If the LB moves out, you could run inside with the QB Power.

Fight 'em until Hell freezes over, then fight 'em on the ice -- Dutch Meyer


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CoachDP
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September 16, 2019 5:56 am  

My HC organization doesn't allow it.  League does.

League allows it and your org handcuffs you?  That is some stupid stuff, right there.

I'd part-block the bubble, have some xx backfield action and lead the Fullback to pick up the LB and run the ball right behind the Fullback.  Keybreaker action if they follow the Fullback's lead is to send the Fullback and HB to one bubble, while the ball-carrier goes solo to the other bubble.  Also, trapping their #2 would make their bubble even bigger.  And then there's always Wedge.

--Dave

"The Greater the Teacher, the More Powerful the Player."

The Mission Statement: "I want to show any young man that he is far tougher than he thinks, that he can accomplish more than what he dreamed and that his work ethic will take him wherever he wants to go."

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Wing-n-It
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September 16, 2019 7:26 am  

League allows it and your org handcuffs you?  That is some stupid stuff, right there.

I'd part-block the bubble, have some xx backfield action and lead the Fullback to pick up the LB and run the ball right behind the Fullback.  Keybreaker action if they follow the Fullback's lead is to send the Fullback and HB to one bubble, while the ball-carrier goes solo to the other bubble.  Also, trapping their #2 would make their bubble even bigger.  And then there's always Wedge.

--Dave

I was thinking similar to this. Back on the old site I used to run a wishbone WAAAAYYY back in the day. I would run it like a DW style offense with "out numbering" at the point of attack so my thoughts of the angles of attack the wishbone gives you lead well to an off tackle play. I down blocked and kicked my way to opening up the off tackle hole.

2 Things my offense will always have is a Wing and a Wedge


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CoachDP
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September 16, 2019 7:37 am  

I was thinking similar to this. Back on the old site I used to run a wishbone WAAAAYYY back in the day. I would run it like a DW style offense with "out numbering" at the point of attack so my thoughts of the angles of attack the wishbone gives you lead well to an off tackle play. I down blocked and kicked my way to opening up the off tackle hole.

We were a Wishbone Cross Buck team before going DW whole-hog.  But we scissor-blocked at the POA.

--Dave

"The Greater the Teacher, the More Powerful the Player."

The Mission Statement: "I want to show any young man that he is far tougher than he thinks, that he can accomplish more than what he dreamed and that his work ethic will take him wherever he wants to go."

#BattleReady newhope


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Wing-n-It
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September 16, 2019 7:58 am  

We were a Wishbone Cross Buck team before going DW whole-hog.  But we scissor-blocked at the POA.

--Dave

I crossed blocked even fronts and cant believe a club would handcuff their own teams like this.

2 Things my offense will always have is a Wing and a Wedge


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DumCoach
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September 16, 2019 10:51 am  

Thanks for the replies.  I can't wedge either. 

But, if I widened my TE splits to two feet and then three, would I get this:

          V                      V
          V    V V    V  V      V
          O  O O 0 O O  O
                      O
                      O
                O      O

Because I see the "C" gaps opening up.

"Football is for the kids - But let's win anyway."


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Wing-n-It
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September 16, 2019 11:15 am  

Thanks for the replies.  I can't wedge either. 

Sheesh, next you are going to tell me you were in the Vietnam war. Talk about being handcuffed.

Jst accordion the TE out and see when the DE finally aligns inside.

Sweeping from this alignment is a pain in the backside. I tried TE over and log blocked the DE with playside HB. Its a tell but it worked.

2 Things my offense will always have is a Wing and a Wedge


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Bob Goodman
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September 16, 2019 12:37 pm  

Jst accordion the TE out and see when the DE finally aligns inside.
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Sweeping from this alignment is a pain in the backside.

Actually with 8Us it's very productive with no tricks at all and no pulling.  You can't count on its gaining yards on any particular down, but average is usually high just because of how most players this age [don't] defend to the sidelines.

And on the naked bootleg there's only one defender out there (likely a CB on air), especially to the near sideline once you have the sweep threat going to the wide side, and your QB has a good chance to beat him 1-on-1.  Or you can establish your QB as the major threat to the wide side -- no handoff so safest -- and then you have all those bodies blocking to the narrow side.


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