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COACH JC
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November 2, 2019 9:47 pm  

Refs usually won't enforce rules that you game. No one uses 'motion' as part of their cadence. By using it or telling the refs that you use it, you are trying to game the rules in a way to penalize the defense for making a common defensive call. Most refs won't give you that and frankly I don't think they should. Prepare for the noise, I'll be shocked if you are able to draw that penalty.

No, but they’ll call it if they’re intentionally trying to drown out the sound of the snap count.

Personally I don’t thonk screaming motion directly at the QB/C (as the video shows) is a standard call. Frankly i’ve never understood the point of calling out the thing everyone can see. In my experience teams have only done that to try & mess w/ the snap count. Notice in the video they’re using the backer right in line w/ the C & QB to scream it out, & everything in his tone & demeanor is clearly a deliberate attempt to get the offense to jump. He sounds & looks like a QB trying to do a hard count.

Smart tactic if the refs allow it. But I don’t know how anyone can watch that & think “yep, just totally normal, not trying anything sketchy.” lol

I agree refs don’t like gaming the system tho. That’s why I think they wont like the other teams actions.

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Bob Goodman
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November 3, 2019 11:30 am  

Personally I don’t thonk screaming motion directly at the QB/C (as the video shows) is a standard call. Frankly i’ve never understood the point of calling out the thing everyone can see.

I'd first envisioned the players on one side of the formation calling "motion" to indicate a back leaving their side, going toward the other, and possibly players on the other side of the formation echoing the call to acknowledge it.  But going by your description, I don't see how that could be anything other than disconcerting signals.

The first time it happened I'd stop play and give the defense the choice of burning a time out or taking a delay of game penalty (based on general principles of "delay of game"), and if it was repeated call the 15-yarder.  If they do it yet again, the violator must be disqualified.  If they tried saving it for a goal line situation, I'd flag it, let play continue, and if it appeared to mess up the timing of the snap, the penalty would be a touchdown.


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shawnm
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November 9, 2019 12:39 pm  

Turned out to be a non-issue in championship game.  Warned referees prior to the game and other team yelled motion but we practiced against it enough that didn't matter.  We lost anyway 22-0, they had great defensive game plan that I didn't expect and had no answers for.  Five championship games under belt now 2-3 record with 2 game losing streak.  We'll keep chopping wood.


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