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joshv155
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November 20, 2014 12:42 pm  

Have a tournament team with 4 very dynamic athletes. A QB who is used to running out of the pistol. We used a zone scheme this last season with our line. Was looking at the diamond pistol to get all of these backs and this QB, who is a fantastic runner, on the field at once and in the backfield. What plays, 5-6 at most, would you suggest to install ? Looking for plays that work off each other and look the same with one play action pass.

Was looking at the Sweep/Power option play (would not run it as option). We ran one back power and this looks similar as far as the line play. Then a FB dive, straight QB sweep and maybe a counter ? Looking for any and all suggestions. Thank you.

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Bob Goodman
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November 20, 2014 5:34 pm  

Have a tournament team with 4 very dynamic athletes. A QB who is used to running out of the pistol. We used a zone scheme this last season with our line. Was looking at the diamond pistol to get all of these backs and this QB, who is a fantastic runner, on the field at once and in the backfield. What plays, 5-6 at most, would you suggest to install ? Looking for plays that work off each other and look the same with one play action pass.

IIRC, jrk5150 had a playbook with full diamond and broken diamond (the latter with a flanker who could jet across) plays.  Or it may have been someone else, or it may have been both him & someone else.

Is this a select team that was put together just for the tournament?


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joshv155
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November 21, 2014 5:22 am  

IIRC, jrk5150 had a playbook with full diamond and broken diamond (the latter with a flanker who could jet across) plays.  Or it may have been someone else, or it may have been both him & someone else.

Is this a select team that was put together just for the tournament?

Not select team but we did merge two teams together in order to get enough to go out of state. We added 5-6 very good players but we took other kids who are MPP's....we needed enough to field a team. But the first group is pretty good....just need to play to their strengths. Running DCWT already and beast but need to get the ball in the QB's hands....this kid makes things happen.

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November 21, 2014 5:50 am  

Not select team but we did merge two teams together in order to get enough to go out of state. We added 5-6 very good players but we took other kids who are MPP's....we needed enough to field a team. But the first group is pretty good....just need to play to their strengths. Running DCWT already and beast but need to get the ball in the QB's hands....this kid makes things happen.

Why not just run the DCWT out of pistol?


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Bob Goodman
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November 21, 2014 11:19 am  

Not select team but we did merge two teams together in order to get enough to go out of state. We added 5-6 very good players but we took other kids who are MPP's....we needed enough to field a team. But the first group is pretty good....just need to play to their strengths. Running DCWT already and beast but need to get the ball in the QB's hands....this kid makes things happen.

What I'm getting at is whether this tournament team was just put together recently for a tournament coming so soon that you don't have much practice time with them.  If that's the case, I can't see installing an offense that neither of the teams they were on was already running and that you've never coached before.


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joshv155
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November 21, 2014 1:58 pm  

What I'm getting at is whether this tournament team was just put together recently for a tournament coming so soon that you don't have much practice time with them.  If that's the case, I can't see installing an offense that neither of the teams they were on was already running and that you've never coached before.

Yes. The one group with the QB I spoke of ran pistol.  The team we brought them over to do not. So they are struggling with picking up the under center plays. It would be a package. One group run what we have been running and another run what they are used to....trying to make it as easy as possible. Smart kids. We have 8 hours of practice time left so putting in 4-5 plays I don't think will be a big issue and some are very similar to what they ran already.

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jrk5150
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November 22, 2014 5:31 am  

IIRC, jrk5150 had a playbook with full diamond and broken diamond (the latter with a flanker who could jet across) plays.  Or it may have been someone else, or it may have been both him & someone else.

Nope, not me.  I have a ton of Terry Cox's Pistol stuff, but nothing like this that I recall.


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Bob Goodman
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November 23, 2014 6:35 am  

Yes. The one group with the QB I spoke of ran pistol.  The team we brought them over to do not. So they are struggling with picking up the under center plays. It would be a package. One group run what we have been running and another run what they are used to....trying to make it as easy as possible. Smart kids. We have 8 hours of practice time left so putting in 4-5 plays I don't think will be a big issue and some are very similar to what they ran already.

Then don't confer with us, confer with the coach who coached them in pistol!  Well, you can still confer with us, but confer with that coach 1st.


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Bob Goodman
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November 23, 2014 6:38 am  

Nope, not me.  I have a ton of Terry Cox's Pistol stuff, but nothing like this that I recall.

It was someone I corresponded with about a year ago, data on the other computer's disk that I don't feel like booting now (especially since joshv155 tells us some of the players just played on a team that ran pistol), and I thought his name started with J (but we know now wasn't you or joshv155).


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