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Fleming-Neon

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If it's not butt to butt I don't want it! That's the new thing I learned about because facebook lol ? 

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Sorry, I'm not following. What's "butt to butt?"

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Posted by: @troy

Sorry, I'm not following. What's "butt to butt?"

I just learned about it myself today from Dave Potter. Apparently, QB "sits" on center's lower back, so he's facing 180 degrees from the LOS when he takes the snap. I guess it's a thing now.

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Posted by: @troy

Fleming-Neon

Interesting, thanks.  Right-handed QB taking the snap primarily against his left hand, baseball style, not the way I'd have it.  But the quick pitch to the open side from that is executed exactly as I'd do it.

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@gumby_in_co Interesting. I would like to see that executed.

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Interesting, thanks.  Right-handed QB taking the snap primarily against his left hand, baseball style, not the way I'd have it.  But the quick pitch to the open side from that is executed exactly as I'd do it.

I should've added, "exactly as I'd do it if the ball needed to be out wide in the greatest hurry."  The way I coached it when we didn't need it out so far and so fast was with a 2-hand chest pass, which is a little more secure but slower than the underhand form shown in the video at 24:30, which you can see was still slightly behind the HB.

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Looks like the previous year they got walloped, so we get a deeper look into their playbook (with the scrubs playing):

I don't know if you'd get the same whole YouTube page I got, but if so the suggestion frame on the right has several Fleming-Neon games from that era.

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@gumby_in_co I just don't see an advantage.   Played QB all thru college... thought I saw everything... I just see no gain here.  Fun to watch but someone clue me in...

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@gumby_in_co I just don't see an advantage.   Played QB all thru college... thought I saw everything... I just see no gain here.  Fun to watch but someone clue me in...

The sidesaddle?

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@gumby_in_co I just don't see an advantage.   Played QB all thru college... thought I saw everything... I just see no gain here.  Fun to watch but someone clue me in...

Cool, another chance to evangelize the sidesaddle!
For us, it gives us a few advantages that fit our style:
1) 2 cycles on offense. We can direct snap to BB or QB.
2) A lightning fast wedge get-off. D line must honor it.

3) Great blocking angles for BB on kickouts

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Besides the advantages Troy brought up, there's:

  • Very easy C-QB exchange, easier than most.  QB can see the ball coming.
  • If it's muffed anyway, ball will usually be at QB's feet with no teammates in the way.
  • Snapper can use the same grip for the thrown and handed snaps.
  • QB gains a step on pass fade and other moves.
  • Very little adjustment to adopt many standard wing T and single wing plays.
  • QB sees the WB coming on jet/fly, easy to time closely to snap.
  • So contrarian nowadays, should drive opposing coaches nuts trying to research it.

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Besides the advantages Troy brought up, there's:

  • Very easy C-QB exchange, easier than most.  QB can see the ball coming.
  • If it's muffed anyway, ball will usually be at QB's feet with no teammates in the way.
  • Snapper can use the same grip for the thrown and handed snaps.
  • QB gains a step on pass fade and other moves.
  • Very little adjustment to adopt many standard wing T and single wing plays.
  • QB sees the WB coming on jet/fly, easy to time closely to snap.
  • So contrarian nowadays, should drive opposing coaches nuts trying to research it.

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