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JustPlay
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Well that was quick. It was a respectable 13-7 at half time. We created 2 turnovers on D that made it that way. Offense struggled. We were to receive the ball to start the second half and my hc switched our starting kick returner with the worst player on the team. I mean the player had reps at it all season, but he hates contact. Ball came at him and he ran away. Kicking team recovered on the 2 and scored the next play. The looks on my players faces told me they were done. I tried to get them motivated as we are a team that is built around our defensive identity.  NO GO. The team was just bigger and faster. It was an A team vs a B team. The kids would be in the right place on D, but they could not bring him down. 3 broken tackles and it was off to the races. Just bad coaching vs better players. The team was not that well coached.

I wont give the final blow by blow but score ended up 46-7. Their average starting position was our 17 yard line. They only threw 3 passes for 7 yards. They did not get outside. It was all A gap. I have never been on the end of an azz kicking like that. Never had my kids give up before.

Two things I will take away from this season.

  1. Not sure the KB works against a larger line. My stud 125 lbs DE could not move their 230 lbs tackle. Asking my MLB to be the 5th guy on the line does work to prevent a powerful wedge. This is my 6 year with the KB and it might need to be my last. The 44 is calling to me.
  2. I am not sure I am cut out to be only a DC and I don’t really want to be the HC. I think most coaches on here have “their” way of doing things. When decisions are made and impact me and I don’t have a say it doesn’t sit well.

Well I am taking my ball and going home now. Grateful for having the chance to have played when so many are not. Thanks for all your input.

 

nothing replaces effort. nothing replaces the mind. One with out the other is a waste of time.


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Calm Down take time to absorb and reassess.  Many things to review at seasons end.  Trust me man I have had worse ass whippins.  I would have never made season 2 if getting a ass whoopin was criteria for taking my ball and going home!  

Some times their Jimmies and Joes are just better than your Freddie's and Franks!   Have a Beer, A Tea, A Soda, Grab a Steak or Burger and Chill for a bit.   🙂

 

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My 14u lost last week to a select team we were in a same boat 3/4 touchdown they scored were inside our 40 at start of possession mainly bc we didn't punt, bc we didn't have a punt unit. We weren't good enough to convert our 4th downs and it got bad quick.

 

Fast forward this week we play the #1 seed and beat them 12-11. Would've been 12-6but their kicker hit the 2pt conversion and a 38yd field which I've never seen in youth.  We won in my opinion bc we punted and force them to long drives which stalled. 

 

Correlation is sounds like you may find 1 thing to fix that will impact your games I'm the future and it's special teams.  Every team that loses usually has a reason of line of scrimmage control or special teams.  Knowing that not a lot of teams see value in special teams until it's too late.

 

Re asess and comeback. No matter what defense you ran you were outsized , there's not a lot of defenses that can counter act physically superior players.

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This was not kid failure. It was a coaching failure. I will do better. I think I need to review my "why". Its mostly for my brother - who is as awesome as they come. I do however have pretty high expectations and when they are not met its tough to just be a good AC vs little brother.

I am sure all things can be corrected. I am sure you gents could have made more of what I was working with. I think its the next step in coaching evolution. No longer scheme, no longer drills, but better player development. I can teach kids pretty well. I can break things into do-able steps. But it requires more one on one or position on position time that i currently don't have durig the regualr season. We have two coaches and 1 herd of cats. My line development is where most the work is needed. i will start there.

 

Good night all.

nothing replaces effort. nothing replaces the mind. One with out the other is a waste of time.


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Posted by: @rjbthor

This was not kid failure. It was a coaching failure. I will do better. I think I need to review my "why". Its mostly for my brother - who is as awesome as they come. I do however have pretty high expectations and when they are not met its tough to just be a good AC vs little brother.

A couple of things.  First, when you're not the captain of the ship, it's really challenging to change the course of the ship.  You may be the ships navigator, but the captain ultimately says where the ship is going and how it's going to get there.  Keep that in mind.  As a non-head coach, your job is to, within reason, do whatever the header asks of you.

Next, life is all about experiences, learning and evolving.  You showed up to this game with the belief that you were prepared to compete.  You had an experience that showed you that you were wrong...you were not prepared.  So...what do you do?

For whatever it's worth, it sounds comparable to my first year of coaching as an assistant that I detailed in another thread.  I find that many teams "prepare" from week to week...and a week is simply not enough time to prepare for an opponent, it's certainly not enough time to prepare for a playoff game.  So what can you do?  I believe the answer is to begin preparing to play the championship game on day 1 of practice...everything along the way is just practice for that championship game.  Every game, win or lose, every day of practice is moving inches towards the goal of playing and winning the bowl game.

If you show up for a fair fight, you are unprepared.


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Posted by: @rjbthor

This was not kid failure. It was a coaching failure.

--Great!  That's the good news because that means your issue is 100% controllable and fixable.  

I will do better. I think I need to review my "why". Its mostly for my brother - who is as awesome as they come. I do however have pretty high expectations and when they are not met its tough to just be a good AC vs little brother.

--Having a good relationship with your header (when you are the AC), or with your ACs (when you are the header) is paramount.  If you can't work together by being honest, then you can't work together.

My line development is where most the work is needed. i will start there.

--If you're referring to your o-line, that's certainly the most common issue (AT ANY LEVEL).  Nothing unusual about that.  Once I realized how important their success was to the success of our team, I began spending the bulk of my focus there.

--Dave

 

 

 

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The Mission Statement: "I want to show any young man that he is far tougher than he thinks, that he can accomplish more than what he dreamed and that his work ethic will take him wherever he wants to go."

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Posted by: @prodigy

I believe the answer is to begin preparing to play the championship game on day 1 of practice...everything along the way is just practice for that championship game.  Every game, win or lose, every day of practice is moving inches towards the goal of playing and winning the bowl game.

That IS the answer, and the approach that we take.  From the first meeting, to the first practice, we are establishing a culture of "This is why we are the best in the league."  We believe in establishing that culture and in our approach.

--Dave

"The Greater the Teacher, the More Powerful the Player."

The Mission Statement: "I want to show any young man that he is far tougher than he thinks, that he can accomplish more than what he dreamed and that his work ethic will take him wherever he wants to go."

#BattleReady newhope


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Posted by: @rjbthor

This was not kid failure. It was a coaching failure. I will do better.

Woody Hayes said: "There's nothing that cleanses the soul like getting the ... kicked out of you."

Seems to me the most important thing here, is you learned.  A lot of guys never learn this, and because they don't, they never get better.

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My line development is where most the work is needed. i will start there.

Counting the TE, the OLine is 6 of 11 positions - over half the offense.  The OLine also has the most skills to develop, form and technique to learn and co-ordinating the assignment and alignment...  Its the position group requiring the most coaching in football.  Most of the other positions on offense are speed and/or hand-eye-coordination positions, to a degree you're pretty much born with them.  Oline is the true 'skilled position' in football.  Master that, and - while the ball handlers will get noticed - the Oline is where your long term success lay.   

Get with your HS Oline coach & pick his brain, go to clinics, get books/ videos- and there's a ton of great stuff online & You-tube.  Educate yourself on Oline play - specialize in it - you'll never regret it, and neither will your Win-Loss column.

 

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Umm.... why does that 6 ft tall 9 yr old have a goatee...?


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