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gumby_in_co
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Posted by: @cocoachkc
Posted by: @gumby_in_co

I will run the DW.

I might just consider coming out of retirement!  If I haven't moved to Orange Beach, AL.

Congrats. You are my new OC for 2022. I want to run the same DW we did with our 5th graders. What size coach shirt do you need?

Any lawyers on Dumcoach?  Does this exchange constitute a binding agreement?

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CoachDP
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Posted by: @immiru

Flexbone works better with faster linemen and typically smaller linemen are quicker. 

--So you think if Army could recruit a 6'-6" 335 lb. Offensive Tackle they wouldn't?  

Pass-centric offenses can benefit from linemen that can anchor their gaps and heavier lineman have an advantage in that scheme over a light lineman.

--When I was coaching AirRaid, we had a 205 lb. Offensive Tackle who did just fine.  We weren't concerned with heft, but how well they moved their feet.  And given the amount of time we focused on footwork, they all had good feet.

We were more effective this year using a gap scheme than a big on big scheme but we couldn't overcome the limitations of a T formation well enough to make it over the hump. 

--Most teams are more effective using any blocking scheme other than BOB.

Coach Kyle had a great point about using a zone scheme to the playside as an alternative. 

--I really believe you're overthinking this.

--Dave

 

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You are right, I probably am over thinking it but as a last comment Army runs the flexbone because the lineman are small in comparison which was the point.  That offense fits their size.  They tried a passing offense under Coach Berry that failed so they talked Coach Ross out of retirement to run the Triple again. I learned quite a bit from Coach Ross (and Kevin) at USMA about teaching the flexbone and can tell you from our conversations he loved smash mouth football.   He actually was the coached that coaxed me out of the UBSW and into the  Triple.

Go Army-Beat Navy!  


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Posted by: @immiru

Army runs the flexbone because the lineman are small in comparison which was the point.  That offense fits their size. 

--They don't run the Flexbone because their linemen are small.  They run the Flexbone because it's a contrarian offense that's difficult to prepare for because of its rarity at the D1 level.

They tried a passing offense under Coach Berry that failed.

--Coach Berry coached for 13 years at 3 schools.  He had winning seasons 3 of those years.  Army wasn't the only school he failed at.

Go Army-Beat Navy!  

--^ Always.

--Dave

 

"The Greater the Teacher, the More Powerful the Player."

The Mission Statement: "I want to show any young man that he is far tougher than he thinks, that he can accomplish more than what he dreamed and that his work ethic will take him wherever he wants to go."

#BattleReady newhope


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@immiru

 

When I coached middle school there was a team that ran nothing but power out of the T. They also ran belly... which is almost identical. They won 17 games in 3 years and lost 1. 

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Coach Kyle
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@immiru

 

When I coached middle school there was a team that ran nothing but power out of the T. They also ran belly... which is almost identical. They won 17 games in 3 years and lost 1. 

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mahonz
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Posted by: @cocoachkc
Posted by: @gumby_in_co

I will run the DW.

I might just consider coming out of retirement!  If I haven't moved to Orange Beach, AL.

I had no idea you moved. How do you like it? 

What is beautiful, lives forever.


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Posted by: @gumby_in_co

I will run the DW. 

That is the most depressing thing I have ever heard you say. 😭 

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@mahonz - I can top it...

"Next year, I'll be running the Triple Wing. Just block somebody"

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Posted by: @terrypjohnson

@mahonz - I can top it...

"Next year, I'll be running the Triple Wing. Just block somebody"

LOL...nothing against the DW but Gumbys team as is isnt going to score more points than they are now by running power football. That has already been established and isnt working consistently. They need an O that can better promote Air Lar. The DW is not that. 

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CoachDP
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Posted by: @mahonz  LOL...nothing against the DW but Gumbys team as is isnt going to score more points than they are now by running power football

LOL, indeed.

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"The Greater the Teacher, the More Powerful the Player."

The Mission Statement: "I want to show any young man that he is far tougher than he thinks, that he can accomplish more than what he dreamed and that his work ethic will take him wherever he wants to go."

#BattleReady newhope


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