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Threepwood
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2-0 season thus far.

The preseason had us worried.  We were blowing people apart in the scrimmages we had.  The better teams were refusing to scrimmage us.

So season starts. 

First game 41-0, no first downs allowed.  No yards allowed.  Our second string gets more playing time than our top 11.  second quarter reduced to 7 minutes (from ten).  After halftime, quarters cut down to five minutes in second half.  4 penalties thrown to negate touchdowns from our team (we knew it, the officials admitted it, we were okay with it).  We ended the game taking a knee on their 1 yard line.

Second game, not much different.  33-0.  No first downs allowed, no yardage allowed.  Second string plays entire second half.  The other team was no where as polished as the first one.  They took forever to send in plays.  The officials didn't call delay of game - I'm glad they didn't.  But they are going to have a tough season if they don't fix that.  They were upset with us.  Arguments were pretty shallow.  We sent the starting D out on the field for the last minute to wrap the game up.  In hindsight, we didn't need to nor have to.  It was a quick call figuring they were going to knee it down anyway (1:03 left in game).

I've had undefeated teams in the past, several 1st place teams, but none as dominating as this one.

The bad?  The best players are getting only a quarter or two of playing time.  I am all for pulling up once the game is decided, but in a funky way, we are punishing our better players from being good.

In a satisfying way, our second string is holding the other team to no yardage too. 

Next week, another team equal to the first two.  Then finally in weeks 4 & 5 we get one of the other top teams.  We badly need it.   


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PSLCOACHROB
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If you won't get punished for scoring too much  ::) let the better players play longer. Work on things you need to polish. Pass early if that is what needs work so as to not appear to be running it up. Try kicking a fg on 4th down. Punt on 4th instead of going for it (though that might be rare that you get into a 4th down). Kick deep on kick offs. That way you can run your base later in the game. We had a few teams like that at PSL. That was our approach because we felt the starters deserved more playing time. Our back ups ended up playing about 35 - 40% of the game against most opponents. But against some, it was over 50% because we do have suspension rules for scoring too much.

As far as teams being upset with you, screw them. Never apologize for being good. Most of the reasons a team sucks is due to the adults.


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gumby_in_co
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Punishing someone's efforts to protect someone's feelings. You'd think football would be safe from that.

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Most of the reasons a team sucks is due to the adults.

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Put that on a t-shirt!

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Threepwood
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If you won't get punished for scoring too much
Pass early if that is what needs work so as to not appear to be running it up.
Try kicking a fg on 4th down.
Punt on 4th instead of going for it
Kick deep on kick offs.

Funny thing is:
- Other teams are already complaining about us scoring too much.  We could have easily double our points in these two games if we didn't pull back.
- Our kicker is capable of kicking a 35 FG.  We would be afraid he would make it and they accuse us of rubbing their faces in it.  However, we have thought about it.
- We punted on 3rd down in last game so we wouldn't score again.
- All we have done thus far is kick deep (our kicker boots it high and to the ten, and we have burners who can get there quick).

Our next opponent is probably no stronger than the last two.


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Funny thing is:
- Other teams are already complaining about us scoring too much.  We could have easily double our points in these two games if we didn't pull back.
- Our kicker is capable of kicking a 35 FG.  We would be afraid he would make it and they accuse us of rubbing their faces in it.  However, we have thought about it.
- We punted on 3rd down in last game so we wouldn't score again.
- All we have done thus far is kick deep (our kicker boots it high and to the ten, and we have burners who can get there quick).

Our next opponent is probably no stronger than the last two.

Been there done that. Our 09 team was crazy dominating. Ok, so what you can do is play games within the game. We had one where we would only run 2 or 3 different plays. Power, counter, wedge maybe. Do nothing but pass. Sometimes that didn't even work. We once called power 4 straight plays and were up 28 nothing after our first 4 drives. All runs over 50 yards. Against those teams, there is nothing you can do. Do you have a running clock in mercy rule and how many pts do you need to get there? Use all your time outs and take delay penalties. Tell the refs to call holding. Penalties chew up clock when it is running. Ask them to slow the game down as much as possible. They usually see what is happening and will work with you.


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So there's a really obscure rule that goes back a very long time. Apparently, if you fair catch a punt or scrimmage kick, you can declare a "free kick" and kick it right back. This probably goes back to the days when offenses would buck the ball back and forth and field position meant more than possession in certain circumstances. I would LOVE to see someone post film of a fair catch free kick in a game.

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PSLCOACHROB
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It happened in the NFL a few years ago I believe. Maybe it was college. I can't remember.


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gumby_in_co
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It happened in the NFL a few years ago I believe. Maybe it was college. I can't remember.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-am/0ap2000000251446/Fair-catch-free-kick-huh

They were attempting a field goal, though.

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Threepwood
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Been there done that. Our 09 team was crazy dominating. Ok, so what you can do is play games within the game. We had one where we would only run 2 or 3 different plays. Sounds like us thus far Power, counter, wedge maybe. Do nothing but pass. We haven't passed yet (except for one XP )Sometimes that didn't even work. We once called power 4 straight plays and were up 28 nothing after our first 4 drives. All runs over 50 yards. Against those teams, there is nothing you can do. Do you have a running clock in mercy rule After 35, clock goes to runningand how many pts do you need to get there? Use all your time outs and take delay penalties. Tell the refs to call holding.Did that in first game Penalties chew up clock when it is running. Ask them to slow the game down as much as possible.Had them cut quarters in half in second half. They usually see what is happening and will work with you.They do and have been great.


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Do you have playoffs? If so, you could try alternating the lineups a bit by letting the second string start a game and play out the first quarter. Bring in the starters for quarters 2 and 3. See where you are at that point in the game and adjust the 4th quarter accordingly. Come playoff time, your starters are your starters again.

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Threepwood
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Do you have playoffs? If so, you could try alternating the lineups a bit by letting the second string start a game and play out the first quarter. Bring in the starters for quarters 2 and 3. See where you are at that point in the game and adjust the 4th quarter accordingly. Come playoff time, your starters are your starters again.

Yes we have playoffs.  Your suggestion is something we have been discussing.  We talking about doing that this upcoming Saturday.


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Yes we have playoffs.  Your suggestion is something we have been discussing.  We talking about doing that this upcoming Saturday.

Coach, is your information up to date? Are you still coaching Middle School as the Header?

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In our league once you go up 18 points, you must replace all of your skill position players. If not the other team can contest the game and youll lose.


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PSLCOACHROB
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In our league once you go up 18 points, you must replace all of your skill position players. If not the other team can contest the game and youll lose.

18 pts is dumb. That is still a winnable game.


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