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CmartCoach
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March 4, 2015 7:18 am  

Hi guys, first post here, though I have been lurking for a while soaking up the incredible amounts of knowledge here.  I came across another site that had a different take on zone blocking that I haven't seen here yet (I have not read every post, yet  😉).  I wanted to see if any of you guys have came across it and what you think, as I though it was pretty good.

Basically, goes like this.  Teach your lineman 3 covered "shades".....

a "1 shade" is inside gap or a heave inside shade,
a "2 shade" is head up or slight shade (like a 2i), and
a "3 shade" is heavy outside shade or outside gap

Then, you teach steps.....

a "1 step" is a backside foot, 3-6 inch drive step straight forward and is used on a "1 shade" covered defender
a "2 step" is a playside foot, 3-6 inch 45 degree drive step toward playside and is used on a "2 shade" covered defender
a "3 step" is a playside foot, 6+ inch lateral slide step to the playside and is used on a "3 shade" covered defender

On inside or tight zone, uncovered lineman will always "2 step"
On outside or wide zone, uncovered lineman will always "3 step"

What do you think?

Cmart


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ZACH
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March 4, 2015 7:28 am  

Haha good luck...reason why its not on here is bc we know better.

Different steps for dofferent shades...is a lot a lot a lot

I did learn a me/us/you call system fron rich kelly for covered players.

I can explain it to you, I can't understand if for you.


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CmartCoach
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March 4, 2015 7:38 am  

Yep. I was thinking that it might work if you eliminated the shade part and just labeled 1 as inside gap, 2 as on, and 3 as outside gap?

Cmart


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March 4, 2015 7:51 am  

C-Mart

It will really depend on how you are actually teaching the blocking. I never want to make things more complicated then they need to be. That is why I keep it rather simple.

Joe

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CmartCoach
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March 4, 2015 8:06 am  

I don't want to count, as IMO that will complicate things and lead to chasing.  I'm thinking if we just teach covered (any part of a LOS defender is in front of you, shoulder pad to shoulder pad) and uncovered. With 12-18" splits. Landmarks are to punch PS# for covered and BS# for uncovered. Then just rep the heck out of vertical movement on IZ (only come of the double if a LB attacks YOU) and wiping the covered off guy to LB on OZ, while maintaining the NEVER chase mentality (if covered defender slants away continue up to LB), these footwork "rules" will put the kids body in the proper postition and leverage.

Cmart


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CmartCoach
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March 4, 2015 8:57 am  

From my experience, zone blocking is more about "feel" than rules. That's why you have to rep it over and over, so that the kids play without thinking. When your mind is moving your feet aren't, so I want all the thinking done between snaps.

Inside zone-

Am I covered?

If NO.....2 step to Playside and combo with covered teammate.....then the ball snaps(the rest so by feel-from many reps, for instance-if defender slants Playside, continue up to LB)

If YES....covered by a 1 (inside of me) a 2 (head up) or a 3 (outside of me)....the answer will tell me my first step(the rest is by feel-from many reps, for instance- if defender slants backside, continue up to LB)

Target Landmarks never change and are only "thought about" presnap. PS# for covered and BS # for uncovered. After initial contact to landmark, I don't want my player thinking, just reverting to his training.

Now in practice we can rep 1/2/3 steps on air everyday for 3-5 minutes. Then work individually, say just covered blocks (defender anchors or slants each way) for 5 minutes, then uncovered (same scenarios) for 5. These sessions are all about "thinking" and proper stance and start.

Then go to combos and rep, rep, rep. And develop the feel for 10, then go groups of 5-7 and build. 

Cmart


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CmartCoach
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March 4, 2015 9:00 am  

Let me also add that we are very high tempo no huddle. So stemming and shifting are not a big factor for us.

Cmart


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March 4, 2015 9:21 am  

Richs covered calls were even easier

Playside shoulder "me"
head up "us" (combo with backside help)
inside shade or gap "you" (slip block)

I literally used just this my first zone season.

I can explain it to you, I can't understand if for you.


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CmartCoach
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March 4, 2015 9:54 am  

Ok, so using that set of "rules" or calls, How did you teach footwork?

We just change terminology and say a "me step" is a lateral step and so on....it's really the footwork that I'm trying to key on.

When you made these calls, how did you teach the technique/footwork?

Cmart


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March 4, 2015 9:57 am  

Cmart

Check out the Power Point under Coach Cianflone's Systems(that's me).  I can answer any of the questions you have but the PP is a good place to start.

Joe

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March 4, 2015 10:20 am  

Ok, so using that set of "rules" or calls, How did you teach footwork?

We just change terminology and say a "me step" is a lateral step and so on....it's really the footwork that I'm trying to key on.

When you made these calls, how did you teach the technique/footwork?

If youre covered you step the same way for (me and us)...the "you" block was different.

I can explain it to you, I can't understand if for you.


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CmartCoach
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March 4, 2015 11:15 am  

I'm intrigued by the "backside foot first" for the inside shade/gap because it seems that it would help the "stay on the double" mindset. Other than that, I don't think that the "design" of this is any different that the me/us/you style....maybe your "you" block was just that.

Cmart


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March 4, 2015 3:07 pm  

I'm intrigued by the "backside foot first" for the inside shade/gap because it seems that it would help the "stay on the double" mindset. Other than that, I don't think that the "design" of this is any different that the me/us/you style....maybe your "you" block was just that.

MHcoach,Zach ,and many of us know whats best from the BEST! Do your thing and send me some vids.jmo

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March 4, 2015 4:39 pm  

I dont chase an Inside Shade!

10%-50%-90% Rule. 

Inside Shade 10%  I stick a backside arm out stepping play side
Head Up  50%, I step play side and hook up!  If he come at me hes mine, if he goes away (playside) hes mine,  If he comes inside, stiff arm, then let him go. 

Outside Shade 90% Play side.  This dude is mine from square 1!  Zone step and push that dude past the play. 

The one thing that a lot of folks seem to forget is that the Running Back has to make the right decision!  The Ball carrier can make the O Line look like total dumbarses or geniuses.  Trust me if he makes the O Line look like dumbarses often enough the O Line coach with eat his frigging lunch and puke it out on his shinny feet! 

jmho

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